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		<title>By: Tiziano</title>
		<link>http://verbalprocessor.com/2008/05/08/restore-user-state-failed-00004005/#comment-1522</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiziano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The source computer was wiped and reinstalled manually because of a particulary configuration, so no way to re-run the capture, no data to capture :( About the In-Place upgrade i think that the process of the caputer/restore of the profile, in the case of an in-place upgrade, &quot;live&quot; only inside the Task Sequence, something like a variable defined at some point of the task that is lost when TS complete.
I really think that the profile is lost, but I also think that is easy to make an error that drive to loose important user data.

Thanks for you support and your readiness answer.

Tiziano]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The source computer was wiped and reinstalled manually because of a particulary configuration, so no way to re-run the capture, no data to capture :( About the In-Place upgrade i think that the process of the caputer/restore of the profile, in the case of an in-place upgrade, &#8220;live&#8221; only inside the Task Sequence, something like a variable defined at some point of the task that is lost when TS complete.<br />
I really think that the profile is lost, but I also think that is easy to make an error that drive to loose important user data.</p>
<p>Thanks for you support and your readiness answer.</p>
<p>Tiziano</p>
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		<title>By: Jarvis</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has the source computer already been formatted? If not, create the association, then re-run the capture.

I don&#039;t know of a way to use the captured profile if the association wasn&#039;t created ahead of time. although you just got me thinking...perhaps if you reinstalled on the original computer with a restore user state. Doing a re-image doesn&#039;t require an association, so that might work. although a bare metal install creates a new client record, so it might not.

Your best shot is to re-capture from the source computer. Hopefully that is an option for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has the source computer already been formatted? If not, create the association, then re-run the capture.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know of a way to use the captured profile if the association wasn&#8217;t created ahead of time. although you just got me thinking&#8230;perhaps if you reinstalled on the original computer with a restore user state. Doing a re-image doesn&#8217;t require an association, so that might work. although a bare metal install creates a new client record, so it might not.</p>
<p>Your best shot is to re-capture from the source computer. Hopefully that is an option for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiziano</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Jarvis,

I&#039;ve same problem, I forgot to create a computer association before capturing user state and now I have about 70 GB of useless data. I also tried to restore manually with loadstate.exe command but the problem here is about the encryption key used bu SCCM. Is there any workaround to recover the encryption key used by SCCM when no computer association is configured or my profile is lost forever?

Thanks in advanced
Tiziano]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jarvis,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve same problem, I forgot to create a computer association before capturing user state and now I have about 70 GB of useless data. I also tried to restore manually with loadstate.exe command but the problem here is about the encryption key used bu SCCM. Is there any workaround to recover the encryption key used by SCCM when no computer association is configured or my profile is lost forever?</p>
<p>Thanks in advanced<br />
Tiziano</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Bosch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Bosch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Jarvis!

It does help...  I&#039;ve now been able to succesfully build my image with refresh/replace scenarios.  I think I&#039;ll just have to work out a process for replacement (import the PC&#039;s via text, and then have the deployment guys match who get&#039;s which before they roll).

Two things left to do now:

1.) Decide how to handle roaming profiles (I&#039;m tempted to turn them all of, delete em, and turn then back on once the migration is complete). We dont use any redirection, or I&#039;d do that instead.

2.) customize what USMT brings acrosss. Right now I&#039;ve got it sucking up everything (random folders on the C:\ included).

Cheers,

Henry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jarvis!</p>
<p>It does help&#8230;  I&#8217;ve now been able to succesfully build my image with refresh/replace scenarios.  I think I&#8217;ll just have to work out a process for replacement (import the PC&#8217;s via text, and then have the deployment guys match who get&#8217;s which before they roll).</p>
<p>Two things left to do now:</p>
<p>1.) Decide how to handle roaming profiles (I&#8217;m tempted to turn them all of, delete em, and turn then back on once the migration is complete). We dont use any redirection, or I&#8217;d do that instead.</p>
<p>2.) customize what USMT brings acrosss. Right now I&#8217;ve got it sucking up everything (random folders on the C:\ included).</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Henry</p>
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		<title>By: Jarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jarvis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 04:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Henry...good hearing from you. Good news and bad news. I just spent the last fifteen minutes typing a long response to this message...but then I accidentally clicked elsewhere on the page before posting the reply and lost it all. So...you are going to get a much shorter version of the reply.

See if you can get a list of the MAC addresses from your computer manufacturer. Most will provide this although you might have to find out who to ask in order to get it. With that you can create a text file for importing the computers in as a group...much easier.

Short answer to the &quot;PXE boot a PC and pick which user state&quot; question...no. The association has to exist first or it will fail.

A possible (and completely untested) way you could do it would be to kick off the USMT capture/restore from &quot;run command line&quot; tasks...not using the State Migration Point at all. You would need to create a vbscript wrapper around it to customize the folder that it saved into on a network share (to keep it from overwriting). Then you could create an HTA to allow you to pick which folder to restore from. I don&#039;t like this for two reasons though.
1. It doesn&#039;t scale. You lose all of the location awareness of ConfigMgr. 
2. I don&#039;t know that it is any easier than simply creating the association in the first place.

Hope that helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Henry&#8230;good hearing from you. Good news and bad news. I just spent the last fifteen minutes typing a long response to this message&#8230;but then I accidentally clicked elsewhere on the page before posting the reply and lost it all. So&#8230;you are going to get a much shorter version of the reply.</p>
<p>See if you can get a list of the MAC addresses from your computer manufacturer. Most will provide this although you might have to find out who to ask in order to get it. With that you can create a text file for importing the computers in as a group&#8230;much easier.</p>
<p>Short answer to the &#8220;PXE boot a PC and pick which user state&#8221; question&#8230;no. The association has to exist first or it will fail.</p>
<p>A possible (and completely untested) way you could do it would be to kick off the USMT capture/restore from &#8220;run command line&#8221; tasks&#8230;not using the State Migration Point at all. You would need to create a vbscript wrapper around it to customize the folder that it saved into on a network share (to keep it from overwriting). Then you could create an HTA to allow you to pick which folder to restore from. I don&#8217;t like this for two reasons though.<br />
1. It doesn&#8217;t scale. You lose all of the location awareness of ConfigMgr.<br />
2. I don&#8217;t know that it is any easier than simply creating the association in the first place.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Bosch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Bosch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 04:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Jarvis.

Long time no see (MMS) Hey, we are migrating from XP to 7, and having some fun with USMT! I think I&#039;ve got in place figured out (advertise bein full os, capture, boot pe, deploy, restore.)

However, we are replacing about 400 machines, and they will be brand new. You mention that I need to have the side-by-side comp assco in place to restore to the new computer. The new machines would be bare metal. Do I have to get names/MAc addresses for each of them before hand? eyikes. I guess it&#039;s doable.

Here&#039;s a crazy idea, but I don&#039;t know how to build it. Could I  run the USMT capture via an advertised IN Full windows TS and put it somewhere on the network. Then, I want to PXE boot a PC and PICK which user state to restore. 

maybe that&#039;s crazy... Do you have/know of a good guide for side by side (step by step)? I&#039;ve been using some good info from the windows noob site.

Thanks Jarvis!

-Henry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jarvis.</p>
<p>Long time no see (MMS) Hey, we are migrating from XP to 7, and having some fun with USMT! I think I&#8217;ve got in place figured out (advertise bein full os, capture, boot pe, deploy, restore.)</p>
<p>However, we are replacing about 400 machines, and they will be brand new. You mention that I need to have the side-by-side comp assco in place to restore to the new computer. The new machines would be bare metal. Do I have to get names/MAc addresses for each of them before hand? eyikes. I guess it&#8217;s doable.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a crazy idea, but I don&#8217;t know how to build it. Could I  run the USMT capture via an advertised IN Full windows TS and put it somewhere on the network. Then, I want to PXE boot a PC and PICK which user state to restore. </p>
<p>maybe that&#8217;s crazy&#8230; Do you have/know of a good guide for side by side (step by step)? I&#8217;ve been using some good info from the windows noob site.</p>
<p>Thanks Jarvis!</p>
<p>-Henry</p>
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		<title>By: Jarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jarvis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The side-by-side association needs to exist before running the Capture TS for it to be able to restore to the new computer. did you create the association BEFORE running the capture Task sequence?

If you did, I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t know. I would post to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myitforum.com/forums/f144.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;myitforum.com&lt;/a&gt; to see if you can get an answer there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The side-by-side association needs to exist before running the Capture TS for it to be able to restore to the new computer. did you create the association BEFORE running the capture Task sequence?</p>
<p>If you did, I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t know. I would post to <a href="http://www.myitforum.com/forums/f144.aspx" rel="nofollow">myitforum.com</a> to see if you can get an answer there.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey there, I know this is a couple of years old, but I am having the same issue. Every time I do a capture of my source it shows up in SCCM as an In-place even though I have created a computer association. When I try to pull down on the new system, it errors saying it cannot find something to restore. How were you able to overcome this issue?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there, I know this is a couple of years old, but I am having the same issue. Every time I do a capture of my source it shows up in SCCM as an In-place even though I have created a computer association. When I try to pull down on the new system, it errors saying it cannot find something to restore. How were you able to overcome this issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Jarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jarvis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for that comment Jon. That seems to confirm my original &quot;wild guess&quot; that I had earlier dismissed...and had crossed out in the post until this morning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that comment Jon. That seems to confirm my original &#8220;wild guess&#8221; that I had earlier dismissed&#8230;and had crossed out in the post until this morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Lambert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Lambert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This error usually occurs when the computer association is created AFTER the source machine had it&#039;s user state backed up.  Computer associations must be made before user state is &#039;stored&#039;.  Hope this helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This error usually occurs when the computer association is created AFTER the source machine had it&#8217;s user state backed up.  Computer associations must be made before user state is &#8216;stored&#8217;.  Hope this helps.</p>
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